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I cooked ribs 2X and Brisket once. I’m not getting enough smoke flavor on my meat that I like. The ribs were OK and the brisket was not. Is there an aftermarket PID controller that can help with this or am I gonna have to buy a smoke tube? I can add a little more smoke with the “Prime” button but I don’t want to keep pressing the button every 30 minutes during my cooking. Also I clean the ash out every time and make sure I don’t have any build up. From what I read through the forums, the smoke from the KC Combo pit is not very good. But I haven’t seen anything about an upgrade on an aftermarket PID controller.
This smoke problem is the only negative that I have experienced so far. The temperature holds steady within 2 degrees either way. And when I open the lid to spritz the temp recovers well.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I will be off for a week and will be smoking ribs, brisket, pork butt and chicken so I can fine tune everything.
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I do have an Amazen pellet tube and they do work well. Found one on clearance last winter. The one I have will last 6 hours when full of pellets.
 
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I do have an Amazen pellet tube and they do work well. Found one on clearance last winter. The one I have will last 6 hours when full of pellets.
Thanks for responding.
it just doesn’t seem right to use a smoke tube. The whole point of the pellet smoker is to have the smoke you want. Or at least an adjustment to the level of smoke you want. I have only cooked 3 times on mine. I’m still trying to figure it out. The ribs, I can do better by adjusting my technique. The brisket is gonna take some trial and error. I will post my progress and hopefully it will help others. And I will post my recipes also. I’m a huge foodie and want my food to taste spot on before I let others know my flavor profiles.Thanks again for responding
 

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Thanks for responding.
it just doesn’t seem right to use a smoke tube. The whole point of the pellet smoker is to have the smoke you want. Or at least an adjustment to the level of smoke you want. I have only cooked 3 times on mine. I’m still trying to figure it out. The ribs, I can do better by adjusting my technique. The brisket is gonna take some trial and error. I will post my progress and hopefully it will help others. And I will post my recipes also. I’m a huge foodie and want my food to taste spot on before I let others know my flavor profiles.Thanks again for responding

The Savannah Stoker controller produces the smoke you will need as the Pit Boss controller is just a cheap swinging controller. Also Pit Boss knows this and they still promote the grills as a smoker, but that controller is just crap.

The Savannah Stoker controller is the right controller you want to smoke with as this controller you can fine tune they you want to smoke. The Smoke Tube personally is useless to me and I am not convinced that it actually works. Some say it does, but that is my opinion so I would not waste your money on one.

 
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The Savannah Stoker controller produces the smoke you will need as the Pit Boss controller is just a cheap swinging controller. Also Pit Boss knows this and they still promote the grills as a smoker, but that controller is just crap.

The Savannah Stoker controller is the right controller you want to smoke with as this controller you can fine tune they you want to smoke. The Smoke Tube personally is useless to me and I am not convinced that it actually works. Some say it does, but that is my opinion so I would not waste your money on one.

Thank you for the information. I will try to tune up my PitBoss KC Combo first then I will try the PID controller
 

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Thank you for the information. I will try to tune up my PitBoss KC Combo first then I will try the PID controller

Sorry I had no idea you have KC Combo. The KC Combo already has a PID controller so the Savannah Stoker will not help you and it is not compatible.

I assume you had a normal PB grill that has the non-PID controllers. I have been trying for the life of me to get as much information the PID controllers that the KC and Lockhart use and who makes them for Pit Boss and the software behind it. I was told that this controller is made out of china, but designed by Pit Boss although that is far as I get as I am very surprised that PB has not released a lot of firmware updates for the platinum grills.

It is nothing new hearing reports that they are not producing enough smoke and I agree you are paying a lot for that grill to add a smoke tube especially a PID controller. The Lockhart is what I feel Pit Boss needs to be held accountable for as they promote the Lockhart as a Smoker as they have the Top Box is designed for smoking and I have heard they do not produce and some say they do. One person did say he did use a smoke tube with his lockhart.
 
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Sorry I had no idea you have KC Combo. The KC Combo already has a PID controller so the Savannah Stoker will not help you and it is not compatible.

I assume you had a normal PB grill that has the non-PID controllers. I have been trying for the life of me to get as much information the PID controllers that the KC and Lockhart use and who makes them for Pit Boss and the software behind it. I was told that this controller is made out of china, but designed by Pit Boss although that is far as I get as I am very surprised that PB has not released a lot of firmware updates for the platinum grills.

It is nothing new hearing reports that they are not producing enough smoke and I agree you are paying a lot for that grill to add a smoke tube especially a PID controller. The Lockhart is what I feel Pit Boss needs to be held accountable for as they promote the Lockhart as a Smoker as they have the Top Box is designed for smoking and I have heard they do not produce and some say they do. One person did say he did use a smoke tube with his lockhart.
The KC Combo does have a “Prime” button. Which my understanding is what the Competition cookers asked for so you can manually add more pellets For more smoke. But I don’t want keep pushing the Prime button Throughout my cooking. The brisket I cooked had a small smoke ring and tasted like a mild roast. I smoked it for 5 hours and got a decent bark on it. Then wrapped it for 5 hours until about 202 degrees. It was moist and tender but not a smoky flavor . I will post the results of the next brisket and the steps and spice I used
 

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I wish one of these companies would make a horizontal control board as most of the new ones have the style. I would try and modify and cut things out but I kind of stink at doing stuff like that.
 
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Or give you a smoke tube if they prefer you to use one
 

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I have 2 smoke tubes. One from them and one from Amazon which was 10 bucks. I am doing a small pork butt Sunday. I get my replacement board Wednesday and will need to play repair man to put it in. I plan on using both smoke tubes to see what happens.
 
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I have 2 smoke tubes. One from them and one from Amazon which was 10 bucks. I am doing a small pork butt Sunday. I get my replacement board Wednesday and will need to play repair man to put it in. I plan on using both smoke tubes to see what happens.
Do you have the KC Combo?
 

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No I bought the Lexington from Walmart... I wish I had kept my old Weber Smokey Mountain at this point. These pellet grills are glorified ovens.
 
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No I bought the Lexington from Walmart... I wish I had kept my old Weber Smokey Mountain at this point. These pellet grills are glorified ovens.
Ok, I have the KC Combo. The only negative with this pit is the smoke is not heavy enough. The heat hold great. The grill and flat griddle plate are perfect for burgers or philly cheese steaks. Maybe my pellet tube will give me smoke flavor I’m wanting. Good luck with your pit. I’ll post pics and comments when I cook again
 

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Ok, I have the KC Combo. The only negative with this pit is the smoke is not heavy enough. The heat hold great. The grill and flat griddle plate are perfect for burgers or philly cheese steaks. Maybe my pellet tube will give me smoke flavor I’m wanting. Good luck with your pit. I’ll post pics and comments when I cook again
I will post the results on Sunday and let you know.
 

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Ok, I have the KC Combo. The only negative with this pit is the smoke is not heavy enough. The heat hold great. The grill and flat griddle plate are perfect for burgers or philly cheese steaks. Maybe my pellet tube will give me smoke flavor I’m wanting. Good luck with your pit. I’ll post pics and comments when I cook again

A Pit Boss grill/smoker is not going to give you that competition smoke ring that is why these grills are inexpensive. it is great backyard wanna be a smoker, but in reality it just does what it does. LOL

Even with the Savannah Stoker I am not get that competition ring, but it is alot better than PB controller that is the truth. I definetly get better smoke flavor and better smoke ring, but again not something that will we win me competitions.

There are pellet smokers that are geared to smoke like Yoder. This bad boy can smoke and you have to pay for it that is for sure. A guy won the Jack Daniels rib fest competition using this below and also I saw his brisket and it look like it was done in wood/Charcoal smoker.

I was shocked that a pellet grill can do this and I seen videos on YouTube people showing there brisket with this deep ring using a Traeger they are full of it and even the experts said it is fake.

 
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Man you just busted my bubble. I really want to like this smoker/grill. I’m going to be off for a week and see why I can do to get a good smoke flavor. I will post pics and reviews of what I come up wirh
 

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Man you just busted my bubble. I really want to like this smoker/grill. I’m going to be off for a week and see why I can do to get a good smoke flavor. I will post pics and reviews of what I come up wirh
Try changing the P setting to 5 I would not go above it unless you are sitting next to the grill. I love my grill and I love what it produces as I have no complaints. The only issue I had was the PB controller that is why I replaced it. Overall PB design, size, and quality metal is perfect for me and I produce some tasty ribs, brisket, Butts, Chicken, steaks, burgers, and you name it I have grilled it and every time it is awesome. I just loving grilling and it just a passion of mine for me and my wife.
 
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Try changing the P setting to 5 I would not go above it unless you are sitting next to the grill. I love my grill and I love what it produces as I have no complaints. The only issue I had was the PB controller that is why I replaced it. Overall PB design, size, and quality metal is perfect for me and I produce some tasty ribs, brisket, Butts, Chicken, steaks, burgers, and you name it I have grilled it and every time it is awesome. I just loving grilling and it just a passion of mine for me and my wife.
i have the KC Combo pit. It does not have a P setting. But it does have a prime button that I can push to get extra pellets and some smoke. But I don’t want to push the button every 20-30 minutes while I’m cooking a brisket.
 

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I just got the KC Combo as a gift and was greatly appreciated. The only complaint I have is the lack of smoke. I have tried some of the recipes on the website but everything cooks like its in an oven and not really any smoke flavor. I tried putting in a smoke tube yesterday when I did a beer can chicken but I probably should have put it in at the beginning and not the middle of cooking. I also cooked for about an hour and a half on 350. I am going to try to smoke some ribs tonight on the "S" setting and see what I get. I have noticed this usually keeps the smoker temp around 165-170 where all recipes I have seen say to put the grill to 225 or higher. I hear you on having to push the prime button every so often. I don't want to have to do that either. Ill post back with results on the ribs after tonight. Ill try it this time without the smoke tube so I can see what this thing will do. I am hopeful this will work because to this point, I have been disappointed in the "smoke" feature this grill is capable of.
 

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